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An image of the Cinder Track on the Yorkshire East coast

Cinder Track restoration survey results

Posted on 15 February 2016

We are working with charity Sustrans and Scarborough Borough Council on a project to restore the beautiful Cinder Track that runs along the North Yorkshire coast between Scarborough and Whitby.

Recently we ran an online survey to find out what improvements the community thinks are needed. With over 1,100 responses the results are now in.

Tom Mutton, Programme Manager in our Scarborough office, said:

"We're delighted to have had so many responses. The responders are from as far North as Aberdeen and as far South as Bristol. It's fantastic that so many people are interested in the future of such a beautiful part of our natural heritage."

The headline results

Graph showing what people use the Cinder Track for

Graph showing what people use the Cinder Track for

Graph showing the forms of transport used on the Cinder Track The category "other" included everything from skis to tractors!
Word cloud showing the reasons respondents don

77.6% of respondents think the track does need improvements. Those that said improvements weren’t needed gave a number of reasons why they thought this was the case. This word cloud shows them – key themes are the speed of cyclists, the wildlife value of the track and the fact that it serves people’s needs just as it is.

Word cloud showing the areas for improvement respondents think are needed for the Cinder Track

This word cloud shows (from uses the frequency of responsese to make a word cloud - the more times the word is used, the bigger it appears.

This was people's responses to what improvements are needed.

Thank you to everyone who responded to the survey. We will report on the next stages of the project soon.

(Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:48 AM)
Track surface
On a shared use path, there are competing interests, but with patience and consideration from all users, there are very few problems.

A consultation is for people to express their views, and perhaps fight their corner, but ultimately, you have to accept that it's a shared path, legitimately used in different ways.

Clearly, smooth tarmac is best for bikes. If you use something with a lot of gravel, you immediately exclude a substantial percentage of bicycles with road tyres. Of course some people who mainly use the path on foot would prefer there not to be too many bikes, or going too fast.

I understand that it's not ideal for users going at different speeds to share a path, but we're not going to get two separate paths, so it's best to share one path considerately.

Tarmac works pretty well on some greenways, like the Nidderdale Greenway from Harrogate to Ripley. On Bank Holiday Monday, it was as busy as I've ever seen it, with people getting along fine, on foot and on bikes.

On katesmith's specific point that it should stay a cinder track, I would say that there's not much of the original cinder left. Probably more cinders could be sourced, but it doesn't seem to be one of Sustrans' options in their surface materials document. I expect one of the surfaces they use and recommend will be the right compromise.
(Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:55 AM)
cinder track work
local news reports state that the improvement work and budget will be carried out by Sustrans, who propose to resurface the track between Whitby and Scarborough in a way that suits cyclists probably tarmac. This ignores the fact that the majority of track users are walkers who would just like to see the existing potholes repaired and drainage improved. I feel that anything that encourages cyclists to speed up on the track makes walking on it hazardous, and the track should stay a CINDER track